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As most of you already know the Alfa Tonale when leased qualifies for a $7500
reduction off the MSRP price. This will reduce either lease payments or the final
buyout price. Also saves on sales tax paid.
Unfortunately if you buy instead of leasing
no clean EV tax savings of $7500 off your income tax can be had. This was confirmed by my dealer when I ordered my Tonale.
it’s called the commercial Clean EV tax credit which is passed along to the customer who leases the vehicle.

What are you doing Buying or leasing?
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Alfa Romeo Canada has a special on Tonale for 36-month financing at 2.99%, which is even better than the rate for Giulia and Stelvio, at 3.99%. Looks like they are really pushing the Tonale line. Hope these special interest rate will still be available when my car arrives.

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@Phil. I hope we can get this kind of lease deal in the US.
It would be informative for those of us planning to lease if we share the lease deals that are offered to us for 3 year leases. Any mo ey down, interest rate and residual value after 3 years.
In this Autoweek UK article I read it says the. 3 year depreciation will be 52-55%. This means higher monthly lease payments for us who lease. Here it is

Depreciation

Analysts predict that the Alfa Romeo Tonale will retain between 52 and 55 per cent of its value after three years and 36,000 miles come trade-in time. In comparison, both the BMW X1 and Volvo XC40 should hold onto as much as 64 per cent of their original value after the same three-year period, although that depends a lot on the specification chosen.”
Does this depreciation figure seem right to you?
I have noticed that just about every BEV and PHEV, besides Tesla, in the US, has a 52% residual for 36 months. Tesla is 60+. So it is more expensive than a Tesla or, say a Subaru ICE (65%?)

Alfa's always have low residual. I just saw the 2023 Stelvio, 36/10 is only 48%.

None of these cars will be competitive in 3+ years when BEVs are available from more companies, at more price points.
I have noticed that just about every BEV and PHEV, besides Tesla, in the US, has a 52% residual for 36 months. Tesla is 60+. So it is more expensive than a Tesla or, say a Subaru ICE (65%?)

Alfa's always have low residual. I just saw the 2023 Stelvio, 36/10 is only 48%.

None of these cars will be competitive in 3+ years when BEVs are available from more companies, at more price points.
I am wondering if a Stelvio leased right now with those residual. Will it have equity at the end of the lease.
Currently 3 year old Stelvios are selling more like 60% of their msrp
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those that work on lease deals know of this types of calculations and present it to the consumers so don't even bother? Afterall, it is their job and that's what they do best. If you can beat them at their game, then you should be working for them :) past few years were a fluke since the availability of the cars were simply put, unavailable, hence the prices of used cars skyrocketed. I don't think this will happen again soon.

As for $7k rebate, I see old postings here but .... I don't believe it applies to Alfa since these batteries were NOT made in USA. I didn't find them on the listed makers or model but perhaps someone can show me.
those that work on lease deals know of this types of calculations and present it to the consumers so don't even bother? Afterall, it is their job and that's what they do best. If you can beat them at their game, then you should be working for them :) past few years were a fluke since the availability of the cars were simply put, unavailable, hence the prices of used cars skyrocketed. I don't think this will happen again soon.

As for $7k rebate, I see old postings here but .... I don't believe it applies to Alfa since these batteries were NOT made in USA. I didn't find them on the listed makers or model but perhaps someone can show me.
If you lease, the Tonale is eligible for $7,500 down payment credit, since Ally will get it based on IRS Section 45W.
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those that work on lease deals know of this types of calculations and present it to the consumers so don't even bother? Afterall, it is their job and that's what they do best. If you can beat them at their game, then you should be working for them :) past few years were a fluke since the availability of the cars were simply put, unavailable, hence the prices of used cars skyrocketed. I don't think this will happen again soon.

As for $7k rebate, I see old postings here but .... I don't believe it applies to Alfa since these batteries were NOT made in USA. I didn't find them on the listed makers or model but perhaps someone can show me.
What do you mean? They work to get more money out of you. If you know enough you can save money. If you don't know enough or don't want to spend your hours with a salesman, there are lease brokers that can still save you money.

For the $7.5K rebate, made in US condition doesn't apply to leases so the lease company gets the $7,500. Whether they pass all of it to customer or not is a different story. (So far Chrysler capital always passed the full amount to customer)
What do you mean? They work to get more money out of you. If you know enough you can save money. If you don't know enough or don't want to spend your hours with a salesman, there are lease brokers that can still save you money.

For the $7.5K rebate, made in US condition doesn't apply to leases so the lease company gets the $7,500. Whether they pass all of it to customer or not is a different story. (So far Chrysler capital always passed the full amount to customer)
They did change it in December 2022, effective I think after 2023 April purchase... leased vehicles are eligible. OOPS not purchased, but activated.
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